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Over Water / Class II
Class II Navigation HF RADAR Coverage Who am I talking to? Position Reports, etc.
Disclaimer: In case of an error here, the JetBlue FOM, FCOM, ABG and QRH always have priority over anything displayed on BlueBrief.
If you are new to Class II flying, or you haven’t done it in a while, here is a quick review:
These items should be looked at individually, and not wrapped all together. Class II is not determined by RADAR coverage, by who you are talking to, or whether you are using the HF Radio. It is determined by VOR coverage at JetBlue.
Class II – Operating Outside the normal service distance of a VOR. At normal cruise altitudes, that is about 130 nm. So for example, if you are navigating overwater, and your route is not defined by a VOR, you are probably Class II. This requires GPS Updating or complete a Nav Accuracy Check before entering Class II Airspace. This includes some “A” routes east of Florida, and other routes toward the Bahamas. A Nav Log is also required for these segments.
HF Radio – Required for dispatch during all navigation thru WATRS (Western ATlantic Route System) Airspace. An HF check is required during your cockpit setup, and PRIOR to entering WATRS airspace. Must accept a re-route in Non-WATRS airspace if HF Check is negative, if not SATCOM equipped. Ok to continue if failure occurs after WATRS entry. See your QRH for further details on this.
SELCAL Check – A positive check is required, or you must monitor the HF Frequency at all times when the HF is required. If the check is negative, switch to another HF freq, key the mic, return to the assigned freq, key the mic again, then re-attempt the SELCAL check. SELCAL stands for SELective CALling.
Position Reports – Required in Non-RADAR Airspace or anytime one is requested by ATC.. Actual fix crossings should be within +/- 3 minutes of the ETA given in the prior report. Remember if you join a new airway, that fix is now a compulsory point even if not designated as so.
Weather Deviations – Remember, weather deviation requests take a little time, so plan early. As usual, know which way you want to deviate, how many miles off track you will will require, and when you can be back on course. If you need 10 miles, right, ask for 15. This request is made thru AIRINC. They will pass the request along to ATC, and get back to you in a few minutes. Remember to ask for MILES, LEFT or RIGHT. Do not ask for 20 degrees left or use the terms North, East, South or West. If the HF freq is so busy you can not get in your request in time, please reference the QRH for the proper procedure. Best to use the "Track Offset" feature to deviate. This will allow flightplan to sequence properly, and position report times will be accurate. More critical if CPDLC equipped.
"NEW YORK RADIO ... JETBLUE 123 ... REQUEST"
Go ahead with your request JetBlue 123
"JETBLUE 123, DUE TO WEATHER, REQUEST 30 (THREE ZERO) MILES RIGHT OF COURSE
BACK ON COURSE BY XXXXX (You can give them a Fix or a time)
AIRINC will readback your request, and ask you to stand by.
They will then call you back or SELCAL you, with an ATC deviation clearance.
It's usually what you requested, but listen carefully, as it might be slightly different.
If the deviation is declined, have a plan B ready. Remember, plan early.
Be sure to report back on course.
So for every overwater flight you should ask yourself:
1. Where does your Class II airspace start and where does it end?
2. Is an HF required?
3. When will I be switching to ARINC?
4. Where are my compulsory Reporting Points?
5. Where are the Non-RADAR areas?
6. Where are my ETP airports?
7. What are the HF Freq is use for today? (Avail from ATC)
8. Is there weather enroute? Request Deviations early !!!
9. Is this a Domestic or Flag Flight Plan? Note different MCDU fuel entries.
10. Have I reviewed the QRH for everything else I’m supposed to remember?
11. Where are the FIR entry points, and what Freq should I use? (Call :10 prior)
Here’s a Typical JFK – SJU Flight.
1. Review the QRH Class II section as needed.
2. Enter the Route on iPad.
3. Check all Class II Waypoints. Pilot entering route in MCDU, reads from flight plan.
4. Runway is displayed on ND as usual before takeoff.
5. While still talking to NY Center, call ARINC on 129.9 on the #2 radio and get the HF Freqs in use, or you can use the LDOC Freqs listed. This is not required, but is helpful in case NY forgets to hand you off to ARINC. If all fails, HF freqs are listed on the enroute chart or vis your iPad enroute display. This is a good time to do your HF and SELCAL Check before entering WATRS.
6. Get a final ACARS weather request for the ETP diversion airports as well as the destination and alternates. Do this before you lose ACARS coverage.
7. When handed off to ARINC, usually it is best to just wait until crossing the fix you are cleared to, and do a full position report then, followed by your SELCAL code if you didn't give it to them earlier.
8. Before doing your position report, know what you are going to say before you key up.
9. Always best to use headsets when talking on the HF. You can hear better and less feedback.
10. Example: NY Center Clears you Direct ROLLE
20 Miles prior to ROLLE, Handed off to NY Radio 129.9
Plan your Position report for ROLLE (write it down, first)
When crossing ROLLE note the TIME and FUEL
Sample position Report:
(Speak Slowly and Clearly, and wear your headset for all AIRINC communications)
Remember you are not speaking to a controller, but rather an operator.
Aircraft: “New York RADIO … JetBlue 123, Position”
ARINC: “JetBlue 123, New York”
Aircraft: “JetBlue 123 Position ROLLE at 1423" (One Four Two Three)
"Flight Level 320"
"Estimating SKPPR at 1455" (One Four Five Five)
"Fuel 28.5" (“Two Eight Decimal Five”)
"SELCAL – Hotel Charlie Zulu Mike"
AIRINC: Will Readback your report, then:
“JetBlue 123, contact ARINC now on 5550, Backup 6586”
Aircraft: Switch to 5550, key mic to hear tone if freq is clear.
“New York, New York, JetBlue 123, SELCAL Check”
ARINC: “JetBlue 123, here comes your SELCAL Check"
Aircraft: “SELCAL Check Good, Thank you” or, “Negative SELCAL Check”
Monitor 123.45 and 121.5
1 or 2 mile RIGHT Offset.
Be aware of your ETP location and track your Nav Log in Class II/Non-RADAR
RVSM Altimeter Check +/- 200’
Know when your next position report is. (Is the time within +/- 3 mins of your ETA?
At your last position report, you will be given a Freq for SJU Center, and a point to call them.
SJU is not bad, but it’s always a good idea to get on the headsets when talking to other
Island Controllers, as they can be hard to understand.